IWC Aquatimer ili Breitling Avenger Seawolf
Zdravo bavim se apnejom tj. slobodnim stilom ronjenja i sportsko ronjenje.
interesuje me da li je neko imao iskustva sa ova dva sata imam namjeru da kupim jedan od njih ali kad sam istrazio na kraju shvatam da dobijem samo razliku u tome da IWC Aquatimer je 2000 m, a Breitling Avenger Seawolf 3000 m , te u cijeni i etiketi proizvodjaca, ono oko cega se kolebam jeste da su oba sata bazirana na ETA mehanizmima tuniranim od strane proizvodjaca, IWC je IWC ali isto tako i Breitling je Breitling, pa bio bih jako zahvalan ukoliko je neko imao iskustva sa ovim urama, shvatam tehnologije ulozene u ove ure helijumsko punjenje radi balans unutrasnjeg i vanjskog balansa pritiska na sat, jednosmjerni rotirajuci prsten sa zakljucavanjem, takodjer da je Breitling kao inace chronometre ali i IWC se ne bavi samo urarstvom kao haute horlogerie vec i kao inzinjerstvom vrhunskih instrumenata za mjerenje ne samo vremena vec i drugih mjernih jedinica........itd....itd.....Gledajuci na velicinu jedne i druge manufakture realno to je tu negdje u 5 deka pa me zato interesuju iskustva sa ova dva sata kao sto sam naveo ranije.
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Re: IWC Aquatimer ili Breitling Avenger Seawolf
Ako želiš PRAVI ronilački sat a da te pritom ne "odere" neki od svetski poznatih proizvođača kao što su ova dva koja si naveo, onda sam ubeđen da želiš sledeće:
Sinn U2 S (EZM 5) - 2175 EUR
http://www.svetsatova.com/forum/atta...1&d=1253478153
Specifikacija:
Automatic winding mechanical watch with two time zones
• Case diameter (mm): 44.0
• Case thickness (mm): 15.4
• Case metal: Black PVD Submarine steel
• Case back: Solid
• Tegimented: Fully
• Movement: Automatic ETA-2893-2
• Inert gases: Filled
• Copper sulphate: Capsule
• Manufacturers limited warranty: 3 years
Detaljna specifikacija: (preuzeto sa: http://www.watchbuys.com/)
Citat:
All Tegimented
This watch is far more than simply a black version of the standard Sinn U2. When Sinn first introduced the U Diver's Series several years ago, the most requested feature was an all Tegimented watch (the standard U models feature a Tegimented bezel).
After the initial U Series was released, Sinn began development of two watches that featured a Tegimented bezel, case, crown and case back, the first of which is the Sinn U1000 and the second this watch.
The Sinn U2 Black is constructed from the same steel that is used on the outer hull of submarines. The steel was procured by Sinn from a steel supplier to Emden GmbH, one of Germany’s North Sea shipbuilding yards who construct submarines from the very same steel. This special steel is also amagnetic which means that is does not have magnetic properties and cannot itself become magnetized. The watch movement itself is protected from magnetic fields up to 4,800 A/m.
Next, the Sinn U2 Black features a completely Tegimented case, bezel, crown and case back. Standard steel used by most watch companies has a hardness of between 200 and 240 HV (Hardness Vickers is a common scale used to measure material hardness). The Tegiment layer on this watch in combination with the PVD coating has a hardness in excess of 2,000 Vickers which is more than nine times harder than standard steel.
The Tegiment layer is not a coating consisting of a foreign material, instead the steel itself that has been hardened using a special engineering process that creates a hardened barrier. This process increases the submarine steel's resistance to corrosion, as well as provides extreme protection from scratches and other damage to the case.
Engineering and Technology
The technology and design elements used to create the new Sinn U2 Black go far beyond standards used at most watch companies.
The Sinn U2 Black contains features you won't find in other watches:
Full Tegiment construction
Bracelet is black PVD and Tegimented
Case constructed of submarine steel for superior resistance to corrosion and scratches
Double Viton® seals
Sinn special oil for operation in extreme temperatures
Two Sinn copper sulphate capsules to absorb moisture and humidity
Inert gasses have been inserted into the case to promote a dry and stable environment
Bezel is screwed to the case using an exclusive Sinn design
Built to the standards of the German special forces - EZM 5
Second time zone complication indicated by a red tipped hour hand
Double coated anti-reflective sapphire crystal hardened with Tegiment process
In house case construction from Sinn's Glashutte case manufacture SUG
Increased water resistance to 2,000 meters
4.6 mm thick sapphire crystal
The uni-directional ratchet operated rotating bezel is also milled from this submarine steel. The indices are machined directly into the bezel without the use of bezel inserts, which can corrode or come loose at deep depths. The international testing lab of Germanischen Lloyd has tested the Sinn U2 Black, and determined that the watch can be certified as water resistant to 2,000 meters. This same firm tests submarines for their ability to withstand the effects of underwater use.
The watch operates in temperatures between -45° Celsius to +80° Celsius due to the special lubricants in the movement applied in the Sinn laboratory.
Bold New Look
This is a watch with "attitude". The new black case design and black bezel are all Sinn, and present an almost "stealth" appearance.
And this watch has to perform - it's part of the EZM family of watches.
Sinn is known for their professional special forces watches, called the Einsatzzeitmesser (EZM - in English "Mission Timer") series. Sinn has long been a supplier of watches to various divisions of the German special forces, including the GSG-9, border protection, customs, military and special police divisions. Designing watches for these units carries a number of requirements, including resistance to shocks, water, magnetism and temperature changes among others.
Zvanični sajt proizvođača: http://www.sinn.de/Modell/U2_S.htm
Što se tiče dva sata koja si naveo, zaista su kvalitetni, ali su po mom mišljenju više za poziranje nego za ronjenje. Sinn U2 S je daleko superiorniji sat u pogledu korišćene tehnologije, u šta se možeš i sam uveriti čitajući ovu detaljnu specifikaciju. Ako imaš neko dodatno pitanje u vezi ove specifikacije slobodno ga napiši i ja ću ti drage volje odgovoriti.
Pozdrav,
V.S.
Re: IWC Aquatimer ili Breitling Avenger Seawolf
Vladan ne odustaje od Sinn satova! :D
U svakom slučaju, mislim da bi trebao da razmotriš satove i sledećih firmi:
Sinn UX
Bell & Ross Hydromax 11000M
Doxa
Nije deklarisan na 1000+ m, samo na 600m, ali je pravi lepotan Ball Trieste Chronograph :cool:
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/t.../trieste_4.jpghttp://i593.photobucket.com/albums/t.../trieste_1.jpg
Pozdrav
Re: IWC Aquatimer ili Breitling Avenger Seawolf
Momci puno vam hvala na prijedlozima i savjetima ipak sam se odlucio i kupio IWC Aquatimer saznao sam neke detalje vezano za kalibar 30110 - ETA 2892-A2, i mislim da ono sto IWC radi sa ovim mehanizmom nije normalno ljudi su fenomeni.
Sat je prelijep pogotovo sam ocaran safirnim staklom na rotirajucem prstenu koje omogucuje bolju preglednost prstena, npr. pod vodom radi manje kretanja i potrosnje kisika oznake se cak vide i kad gledam pod uglom i definitivno je bolje uradjen od prijasnje serije. Ono sto sam jos pronasao jeste da IWC koristi ETA i Valjoux mehanizme ali samo Chronometre tj. one najbolje, tako da sto se tice mehanizma naisao sam da je ovaj 30110 tj, ETA 2892-A2 u klasi Rolex in House Movment, stoga definitivno sam ovo zelio i prezadovoljan sam, testiran je na 25m i 50m dubine i ne pokazuje nikakve promjene u radu jednostavno savrsen jasno citljiv itd....itd......
sve najljepse i najbolje za ovu uru, definitivno preporuka za sve koji traze sat za ronjenje , ali i da je prelijep.
IWC Aquatimer bog i batina za sve ostale s namjenom za ronjenje.
Jos jednom vam hvala zelim vam sve najbolje u radu
super ste
Re: IWC Aquatimer ili Breitling Avenger Seawolf
cudi me da te forumasi nisu nagovorili da kupis seiko, sinn ili citizen :D salu na stranu, IWC je aqua je jedan od najtrazenijih satova na trzistu, i sjajan je sat, imao sam prilike da ga vidim i stavim na ruku. definitivno jedan on najboljih ronilacnih satova!
Re: IWC Aquatimer ili Breitling Avenger Seawolf
Uvijek ostvari svoje snove,pusti sto drugi misle.Ako si IWC sanjao onda nema dileme koji uzeti.
PS.nadam se slikama :D
Re: IWC Aquatimer ili Breitling Avenger Seawolf
Bravo..iako imam Superocean i ja razmisljam da ga menjam za Aquatimera i tu sam blizu...Galapagos limited uhh
Re: IWC Aquatimer ili Breitling Avenger Seawolf
evo da se i ja ukljucim, (posle duzeg vremena, pritisle druge obaveze...)
Ja sam ozbiljno razmisljao (ima u nekoj drugoj temi) o IWC aqua (titanium i oranz naravno :)) i skoro pa nabavio...medjutim nesto ima kod tog sata sto me ''odbija'' , mada mi se opet i svidja...
tako da sam resio da jurim za povoljnom prilikom...moj 'tip' je Doxa diver (...steta sto se tesko nabavlja, odn. bukvalno nema gde da se vidi/ proba u zivo= da li ima neko?)
...tako me nesto asocira na Ursulu Anders kad izlazi iz mora, da ne mogu prosto da odolim...definitivno ima nesto u tom budz al retro look-u :lol:
Re: IWC Aquatimer ili Breitling Avenger Seawolf
Inace da ne zaboravim, ja sam se jedno vreme dvoumio oko Breitling-a SO sa onom retro narukvicom (jedini Br koji mi se dopadao- naravno stvar licnog ukusa, bez ljutnje molim), sad mi je drago sto sam odustao...
Medjutim ovi novi Brajtlinzi su skroz okej, cak fenomenalni...mada mislim da su bas bas precenjeni, kao i novi Roleksi (isto fenomenalni)- to je valjda marketinska fora, vidi se da su ubacili dodatnu lovu u reklamu (na pr. Federer je bio u ''naponu'' prosle godine pa to valja iskoristiti...)